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Poster: Dudley Dead Date: Aug 19, 2010 3:35pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: So what DON'T you like about em'?

Boy did I come late to a good party !
Since most of my peeves have been brought up .
I will state one .
The decline of their feel for "Rock & Roll, Blues, and Country. This mainly falls on their rhythmic sloggyness, and lack of groove . You can make 2 drummers work, but it takes WORK to do so . And even Jerry, seems to lose the feel for some of these songs ( GDTRFB ) somewhere past the 70's .
You play any later day version of NFA, Johnny B. Goode , or Mama Tried , to a musician, or a musical friend, ( who is not just a Dead hater ) and ask them what they think ! You might heard words like "sloppy", "flaccid, or limp dick", "confused", "lazy", "uninspired", "if it was my band, I would fire..." , etc.
And NEVER play their version of The Last Time to Rolling Stones fan !
You could say, "They just don't understand the Dead", but there are such things as musical standards, that even this great band can be judged by .

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Poster: William Tell Date: Aug 19, 2010 8:18pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: So what DON'T you like about em'?

You know, DD, I have groaned on about the two drummers, but because I thought it worked very well during 68-69, and then was part of what I saw for most of my time, 74-82, I never have come out one way or the other on it...but, I will say it always struck me that one drummer, like...hmmm...I dunno, Ginger Baker (har, but any top ten rock band drummer), could sound so much more compelling than our two boys. And certainly, Bill does really well for my one main yr with him, 71. Now some have pointed out to me that their style was to be more background, etc., but still, it just always struck me that it wasn't "twice as good!" as overly simplistic as that sounds...

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Poster: Dudley Dead Date: Aug 19, 2010 10:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: So what DON'T you like about em'?

I have no problem with the first 2 drummer period, or the first few years of Hart's return . It is somewhere there in the 80's that the problems with the more "roots" oriented type material, that I mention start to develop . And it is not just the drummers, it can be Garcai, or Phil, or Bob . It really sounds like they didn't notice , or were aware of what they sounded like, sometimes . Did they rehearse much, or listen to these tapes ? Since they were a democratic anarchy, no one is boss, no one can say, " Tighten it up" , "slow it down", "what are you doing" ?
Maybe to "fix" the problems, would killed something more special, in the band .
But I am only going off what they had been able to do before .
'Little Red Rooster", for example : I'm not a big fan of Weir's blues singing , but when they first brought into their rotation, it had kind of "smokey" groove to it . Later it felt like someone trying to walk through a vat of oatmeal .